goose
4:14 Wed Oct 23
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even if 'negrito' is acceptable in some parts of the world, this bit:
"No hablo con los negros
simple isnt acceptable no matter where you are.
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Hermit Road
4:10 Wed Oct 23
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When you say someone called you a "nigger" even though you know they didnt, that's a lie.
If he couldn't speak Spanish fluently and hadn't played eith S Americans for years then it would still be a lie because as he later admitted, Suarez hadn't said that word. Literally.
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gph
4:01 Wed Oct 23
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So, you've proven that Evra either lied or has improved his knowledge of Spanish, and assumed the former with no evidence.
I can guess what the tie-breaker for you is, but it doesn't work for me.
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mr so & so
3:51 Wed Oct 23
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nothing wrong with terms like negrito in latin america, in fact its a term of endearment. no problem addressing the fat bartender in caracas for example, me puedes dar una cerveza gordo if you dont know'em. 'give me a beer fatty'
no one is fucking offended over there unlike all these PC cranks everywhere here.
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Hermit Road
3:38 Wed Oct 23
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Evra went into his changing room and told his teammates that Surez had called him a n*gg...
Then Evra admitted that he hadn't said that.
Spot the difference yet?
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Jasnik
3:37 Wed Oct 23
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checks babelfish
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gph
3:33 Wed Oct 23
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"originally claimed he said something different."
Evra at first said that Suarez said "No hablo con los negros".
He now says Suarez said "No hablo con los negros"
Spot the difference. When you do, let us know.
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goose
3:25 Wed Oct 23
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yeh i'm not saying Evra is blame free, but i dont think what Suarez said is acceptable.
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Hermit Road
3:25 Wed Oct 23
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Theres no evidence he siad "I dont speak to blacks" except for the word of one man who had already lied and originally claimed he said something different.
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gph
3:21 Wed Oct 23
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"I don't speak to blacks" is still a racist comment, even if one of the individual words is politer than its alternative.
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Far Cough
3:20 Wed Oct 23
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"the dog from Dambusters" arf
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Sven Roeder
3:20 Wed Oct 23
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I didn’t see the apology
Did Carragher bring it up of his own accord because Evra was on MNF or was he asked about the incident and then responded?
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Hermit Road
3:19 Wed Oct 23
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Yes.
And it definitely doesnt mean what Evra claimed it did, importantly, Evra knew that too as a spanish speaker who played with plenty of S Americans.
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goose
3:16 Wed Oct 23
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is 'negrito' ok?
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Hermit Road
3:16 Wed Oct 23
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Trundle. Its 2019. He has to apologise if he wants to keep a job in the UK media.
Either way, what Suarez said was not racist and even if it was, what Evra did to start it all was much worse. Called his sister a whore or something similar.
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Sven Roeder
3:13 Wed Oct 23
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I’m still waiting for Liverpool to apologise to all the English clubs deprived of European football because they murdered Juventus fans at Heysel.
And for cheating in the 2006 FA Cup final after we put the ball out for their injured player.
My estimate is about 800 years on those
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Lee Trundle
3:13 Wed Oct 23
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Carragher, his vice captain, obviously feels like an apology is needed.
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Hermit Road
3:11 Wed Oct 23
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Not that he even said that, he said negrito. Nothing wrong with that and Evra knew it.
Also, even if Suarez had said what Evra at first lied about, by Evras admission, hed called his sister something worse first. How the fuck is Suazrez the bad one here.
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Hermit Road
3:09 Wed Oct 23
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Boleyn. Read through what you posted again in the knowledge that Evra was fluent in Spanish and absolutely knew that Suarez hadn't called him what he said hed called him at first.
It's a common South American phrase that Evra knew didnt mean what he said it meant, that's why he rolled back on it.
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goose
2:58 Wed Oct 23
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we only have his word, but i believe Evra.
Liverpool's reaction was poor, but i expect nothing else from them.
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boleyn8420
2:53 Wed Oct 23
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Hermit. Just read the official report and unless you're being sarcastic. This is a very brief excerpt
Mr Evra said that he followed up Mr Suárez's reply "Because you are black" by saying "Habla otra vez asi, te voy a dar una porrada", which means "Say it to me again, I'm going to punch you". Mr Suárez replied by saying "No hablo con los negros". Mr Evra said that, at the time, he understood this to mean "I don't speak to niggers", although he now says it means "I don't speak to blacks".
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